[AudioI] AudioInjector Zero no longer being recognized by raspberrypi 4 (Tony Henrie) (Ron Patton)
Tony Henrie
tthenrie at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 28 00:41:08 UTC 2021
2nd followup: Well, this morning I fiddled with it some more and adjusted a few settings in PulseAudio’s Volume Control and everything seems to be playing beautifully, both in OAP and in Raspbian under VLC. I’m getting a little jumping and clicking, but I believe that’s a bluetooth issue, since I don’t get it when playing music from the SSD via VLC. It almost sounds like clipping, but I still get it even at low volume levels.
I also discovered that the background interference I was getting was computer noise transmitted through the gpio header. I have a screw terminal HAT mounted on top of the AIZ (I built it with the long pin header), to which I am connecting various gpio controlled relays for the power supply from the vehicle. I can hear various buzzes and sounds that appear to be related to the gpio functions. I hear these when the volume is set to 0. Once I removed that HAT and powered the pi by its USB-C port, the background noises went away.
So, now the configuration is:
- aplay -D hw:0 to set the AIZ as default in alsamixer
- Ensure output HiFi is selected in alsamixer and that Master is set at the top of the white bar, not above.
- Set all output and input levels at 100% in PulseAudio Volume Control (whether they seem to be connected or not). PulseAudio seems to think the card is a built-in LDPA device.
At any rate, it looks like an issue of OAP’s implementation of PulseAudio may be the problem, although it seems to be working fine this morning. I’ll keep talking to them.
Thanks for your help Ron. I still don’t know what I did differently, but apparently something you suggested got me going the right direction.
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> Yes. It was working fine up until raspberrypi.org <http://raspberrypi.org/> went exclusively to PulseAudio a few months ago, which then induced OpenAuto Pro to also reconfigure for PulseAudio exclusively. The AIZ still works fine under raspbian, when I install Alsa alongside PulseAudio, but when OAP is running the sound level is lower and has a lot of audio interference. As soon as I exit OAP, the sound is fine again. Without PulseAudio, OAP has no volume controls and there is no sound at all. I wish I were better at troubleshooting software, but my knowledge of coding is pretty shallow.
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> I?ve had the AudioInjector Zero card since shortly after it was introduced a couple years ago and have enjoyed it. I initially had the card installed under Raspbian/OAP on a raspberrypi 3B, then moved to a rpi4B last year. It was working fine. The card?s hardware configuration was exactly what I needed. The mic input on the card made it possible for me to use it for hands-free telephony under OAP. It was perfect! I was hoping this was just a driver issue and that it would be resolved soon.
>
> OpenAuto Pro is developed by Bluewavestudio.io <http://bluewavestudio.io/>. Maybe a few questions to them from your developers might shed light on the issue. Most of the folks using OAP seem to be using USB dongles for their sound, but the AIZ is a much better option in my opinion. Having the card mounted via a 40-pin header and solid stand-offs is much more robust than a USB connection on a dongle, when you?re talking about installation in a vehicle. I am hoping there is a software/driver solution for this issue that allows me to keep the AIZ card under OAP. Since Raspberrypi.org <http://raspberrypi.org/> went to PulseAudio, I doubt OAP will do anything differently, so I think the ball is in your court.
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> Tony
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>> Thanks Ron.
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>> Already tried all that. You can follow the thread and see the file data. No joy. Yes, OpenAuto Pro requires PulseAudio, as OAP is integrated with Raspbian OS. Without PulseAudio, there is no sound and no volume control. I really like the AudioInjector Zero sound card, but I guess it?s not going to work for my usage under OAP as part of my vehicle?s head unit. I?ll find another use for it.
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>> Thanks again, Matt and Ron.
>>
>> Tony
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>> Hi Tony,
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>> Following threads can be problematic at times. To much info. But at any rate, one last question. Did it ever work on the RPi? If so when and what changed since then?
>>
>> 73,
>> Ron / W4MMP
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>> On 3/26/2021 18:07, Tony Henrie via People wrote:
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>>> Thanks Ron.
>>>
>>> Already tried all that. You can follow the thread and see the file data. No joy. Yes, OpenAuto Pro requires PulseAudio, as OAP is integrated with Raspbian OS. Without PulseAudio, there is no sound and no volume control. I really like the AudioInjector Zero sound card, but I guess it?s not going to work for my usage under OAP as part of my vehicle?s head unit. I?ll find another use for it.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Matt and Ron.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
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>> El 26/3/21 a las 2:37, David Riedstra via People escribi?:
>>> Another question I have: does anyone else experience a power hit to
>>> the RPi when the AudioInjector hat is playing audio? My SSH sessions
>>> over wireless stall while audio is playing through the hat, which
>>> makes me think that it's drawing power away from the wifi card. (Wired
>>> connections are fine.) I haven't had that with the other hat that I've
>>> used. Is this just a fact of life with these chips or is there a way
>>> to mitigate it?
>> I had power issues in a rasp3b with OctoSound playing 6 channels and one
>> arduino connected for sensor inputss, i changed the trasnformer to the
>> official 3 amperes model and power problems gone. Now it's running
>> continuously in an art installation for two weeks without problems
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> Hi Tony,
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> I think you are under the impression that I have an official relationship with Audio Injector folks. I don't. I was simply attempting to lend a hand with trouble shooting.
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> My application works fine on the RPi 4B running the latest Raspberry O.S. (with PulseAudio). My application uses the services of PortAudio which by passes the PulseAudio stuff and talks directly to ALSA. I don't need an external volume control as the application manages volume itself.
>
> Let me dare to say, that if other applications work fine with the current version of Raspberry O.S. (my application, VLC, etc) then the ball is in OAP's court. The problem is definitely not a driver issue.
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> 73,
> Ron / W4MMP
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> On 3/27/2021 14:26, Tony Henrie via People wrote:
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>> Yes. It was working fine up until raspberrypi.org went exclusively to PulseAudio a few months ago, which then induced OpenAuto Pro to also reconfigure for PulseAudio exclusively. The AIZ still works fine under raspbian, when I install Alsa alongside PulseAudio, but when OAP is running the sound level is lower and has a lot of audio interference. As soon as I exit OAP, the sound is fine again. Without PulseAudio, OAP has no volume controls and there is no sound at all. I wish I were better at troubleshooting software, but my knowledge of coding is pretty shallow.
>>
>> I?ve had the AudioInjector Zero card since shortly after it was introduced a couple years ago and have enjoyed it. I initially had the card installed under Raspbian/OAP on a raspberrypi 3B, then moved to a rpi4B last year. It was working fine. The card?s hardware configuration was exactly what I needed. The mic input on the card made it possible for me to use it for hands-free telephony under OAP. It was perfect! I was hoping this was just a driver issue and that it would be resolved soon.
>>
>> OpenAuto Pro is developed by Bluewavestudio.io. Maybe a few questions to them from your developers might shed light on the issue. Most of the folks using OAP seem to be using USB dongles for their sound, but the AIZ is a much better option in my opinion. Having the card mounted via a 40-pin header and solid stand-offs is much more robust than a USB connection on a dongle, when you?re talking about installation in a vehicle. I am hoping there is a software/driver solution for this issue that allows me to keep the AIZ card under OAP. Since Raspberrypi.org went to PulseAudio, I doubt OAP will do anything differently, so I think the ball is in your court.
>>
>> Tony
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>>> Thanks Ron.
>>>
>>> Already tried all that. You can follow the thread and see the file data. No joy. Yes, OpenAuto Pro requires PulseAudio, as OAP is integrated with Raspbian OS. Without PulseAudio, there is no sound and no volume control. I really like the AudioInjector Zero sound card, but I guess it?s not going to work for my usage under OAP as part of my vehicle?s head unit. I?ll find another use for it.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Matt and Ron.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:27 AM, people-request at lists.audioinjector.net wrote:
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>>> Subject: Re: [AudioI] AudioInjector Zero no longer being recognized by
>>> raspberrypi 4 (Tony Henrie) (Ron Patton)
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>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> Following threads can be problematic at times. To much info. But at any rate, one last question. Did it ever work on the RPi? If so when and what changed since then?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Ron / W4MMP
>>>
>>> On 3/26/2021 18:07, Tony Henrie via People wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Ron.
>>>>
>>>> Already tried all that. You can follow the thread and see the file data. No joy. Yes, OpenAuto Pro requires PulseAudio, as OAP is integrated with Raspbian OS. Without PulseAudio, there is no sound and no volume control. I really like the AudioInjector Zero sound card, but I guess it?s not going to work for my usage under OAP as part of my vehicle?s head unit. I?ll find another use for it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again, Matt and Ron.
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:27 AM, people-request at lists.audioinjector.net wrote:
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>>> To: people at lists.audioinjector.net
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>>> El 26/3/21 a las 2:37, David Riedstra via People escribi?:
>>>
>>>> Another question I have: does anyone else experience a power hit to
>>>> the RPi when the AudioInjector hat is playing audio? My SSH sessions
>>>> over wireless stall while audio is playing through the hat, which
>>>> makes me think that it's drawing power away from the wifi card. (Wired
>>>> connections are fine.) I haven't had that with the other hat that I've
>>>> used. Is this just a fact of life with these chips or is there a way
>>>> to mitigate it?
>>>
>>> I had power issues in a rasp3b with OctoSound playing 6 channels and one
>>> arduino connected for sensor inputss, i changed the trasnformer to the
>>> official 3 amperes model and power problems gone. Now it's running
>>> continuously in an art installation for two weeks without problems
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> santi
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