[AudioI] FW: Re: Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal streaming

mott mott at escuta.org
Tue Jan 16 20:36:38 UTC 2024


That's interesting, I hadn't realised that other players on the same local network would receive a recompressed signal. I may check this on the logitech forum. But no, both server and the player for my main stereo are on the same Pi and the sound will go direct to the card, not the network.Is there no advantage in using the card that handles 192kHz, even though it's connect to unbalanced inputs?IainEnviado do meu Galaxy
-------- Mensagem original --------De : jr52884 <jr52884 at aim.com> Data: 16/01/2024  17:16  (GMT-03:00) Para: mott <mott at escuta.org>, people at lists.audioinjector.net Assunto: Re: [AudioI] FW: Re: Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal streaming 
Hi Iain,I thought you wanted differential audio output from the Pro. Do you just want single-ended (unbalanced) then? If so, you would buy the RCA preamp board for the Pro instead. You mentioned you are using a high fidelity streaming service. Will you be running it on the Pi itself or streaming the audio output of what you are running it on over the network to the Pi? If the latter is the case, you’ll be recompressing the streaming service’s audio to deliver it to the Pi over the network and losing quality. I don’t know if it will resample it, but if it does, you would be defeating your initial goal.Jonathan Sent from the all new AOL app for iOSOn Tuesday, January 16, 2024, 1:27 PM, mott <mott at escuta.org> wrote:That's great Jonathan. The preamp is a Quad 34 with unbalanced inputs (rca). I'm guessing the output of XLR board will be better than the earlier Audio Injector Stereo (at least when playing 192kHz 24bit audio), but in any case, I need an additional quality output board for the Pi, and it'll be handy have a balanced interface for other things. I'll wire up or purchase a short XLR to RCA lead to connect to the Quad.Logitech Media Server is an excellent streaming audio server for Spotify, Tidal, web radio, etc. It can stream to any number of players (including squeezelite) on a network and these players can be controlled from mobile phone apps or a browser interface. All the best,IainEnviado do meu Galaxy-------- Mensagem original --------De : jr52884 <jr52884 at aim.com> Data: 16/01/2024  13:58  (GMT-03:00) Para: mott at escuta.org, people at lists.audioinjector.net Assunto: Re: [AudioI] FW: Re: Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal streaming 
Hi Iain,I don’t know what sort of input connections your preamp has (I don’t believe you mentioned it) and I’m not familiar with any of that software. The Pro simply presents itself as an ALSA device, like any other ALSA soundcard. If you require differential audio output for your preamp, you’ll get it with the XLR preamp board via the XLR connectors.JonathanSent from the all new AOL app for iOSOn Tuesday, January 16, 2024, 5:25 AM, Iain Mott <mott at escuta.org> wrote:
    Thanks Jonathan,
    I think the description "Audio Injector XLR Preamp -
      Professional-Grade Audio Interface for Microphones and XLR-Based
      Audio Sources", confused me a little. I didn't initially assume
      that it had outputs.
    
    My Pi with have the Logitech Media Server running and
      additionally, squeezelite, to play from the server and send audio
      to the outputs of the "Audio Injector XLR Preamp".
    If that sounds correct I'll place my order for the Pre-amp.
    All the best,
    Iain
    
    Em 15/01/2024 17:13, jr52884 at aim.com
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            Iain,
            
            
            The XLR preamp board provides both stereo
              input and output and is how you interface the Pro with
              whatever you connect it to. If you want differential audio
              output, that's the preamp board you buy. If you want
              single-ended audio like the Stereo provides, you buy the
              RCA preamp board.
            
            
            The XLR/RCA preamp board provides the analog
              preamp stage that interfaces with the CODEC's
              inputs/outputs used on the Pro.
            
            
            Jonathan
          
          
        
        
        
      
      
        
           On Monday, January 15, 2024, 11:45:29 AM EST, mott via
            People <people at lists.audioinjector.net> wrote: 
          
          
          
          
          
            
              
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
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                  De : mott <mott at escuta.org> 
                  Data: 15/01/2024 12:25 (GMT-03:00) 
                  Para: jr52884 <jr52884 at aim.com> 
                  Assunto: Re: [AudioI] Audio Pro Soundcard for
                    Tidal streaming 
                  
                  
                
                Hi Jonathan,
                
                
                So the XLR preamp acts as a complete stereo
                  interface, with stereo output independent of any
                  input? 
                
                
                Iain
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
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                  De : jr52884 <jr52884 at aim.com> 
                  Data: 15/01/2024 11:47 (GMT-03:00) 
                  Para: mott <mott at escuta.org>,
                    people at lists.audioinjector.net 
                  Assunto: Re: [AudioI] Audio Pro Soundcard for
                    Tidal streaming 
                  
                  
                
                Hi Iain,
                
                
                You simply buy the Audio Injector Pro and the XLR
                  preamp board and use XLR to connect unbalanced
                  audio to your preamp like you would anything else. 
                
                
                The preamp board is needed unless you want to roll
                  your own high quality op amp line drivers. The CODEC
                  requires them. 
                
                
                Jonathan
                  
                  
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                    Sunday, January 14, 2024, 12:20 PM, mott via People
                    <people at lists.audioinjector.net> wrote:
                  
                    
                      
                        Thanks Jonathan. No, sorry, I should have
                          explained better. I currently have a raspberry
                          pi with a stereo audio injector card. It's
                          connected to a Quad 43 preamplifier and I use
                          it for streaming Tidal. My turntable is also
                          connected to the Quad and I want keep using
                          the preamp. I'm interested in using the Pro
                          audioinjector to make use of its processing of
                          higher sampling rates, specifically, for
                          Tidal's high resolution content, some of which
                          streams at 192kHz. So I need to know how to
                          wire its output to connect with the unbalanced
                          inputs of the Quad 43.
                        
                        
                        Iain
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
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                            De : jr52884 at aim.com 
                            Data: 14/01/2024 13:27 (GMT-03:00) 
                            Para: mott <mott at escuta.org> 
                            Assunto: Re: [AudioI] Audio Pro
                              Soundcard for Tidal streaming 
                            
                            
                          
                          
                            Ian,
                            
                            
                            There are output boards
                              available, both single-ended (rca preamp)
                              and differential (XLR preamp) boards. It
                              sounds like you have the RCA preamp board.
                              You would simply buy the differential
                              preamp board. Here
                              is the product page and it looks like you
                              can purchase it here. 
                            
                            
                            
                            Jonathan
                            
                            
                            
                          
                          
                            
                               On Saturday, January 13, 2024,
                                11:24:28 AM EST, mott via People
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                                    Actually, what I wrote is
                                      probably wrong, at least, if the
                                      diagram really does apply to the
                                      Pro.
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    Output 4 is Left out +ve and
                                      Output 3 is Right +ve, for
                                      balanced, I assume.
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    
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                                        Data: 13/01/2024 11:38
                                          (GMT-03:00) 
                                        Para: Holguin Daniel
                                          <cicloide at yahoo.com>,
                                          people at lists.audioinjector.net
                                        
                                        Assunto: Re: [AudioI] Audio
                                          Pro Soundcard for Tidal
                                          streaming 
                                        
                                        
                                      
                                    
                                    
                                      Thanks Fausto! 
                                      
                                      I saw this diagram on github:
                                      
                                      So I'd wire the left channel
                                        RCA "tip" to Output 1 and the
                                        right channel tip to Output 2.
                                        Correct? Do the Output pins have
                                        a ground or should I wire the
                                        RCA sleeves to the GND on the
                                        Power pins?
                                      Iain 
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      Em
                                        13/01/2024 09:21, Holguin Daniel
                                        escreveu:
                                      
                                       Hi Iain.
                                        
                                        
                                        Yes. The first two channels
                                          are at the left. The left
                                          channel on top. Usually.
                                        
                                        
                                        The card can output stereo.
                                        
                                        
                                        Fausto
                                          
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                                              On Sat, Jan 13, 2024
                                                at 5:01, Iain Mott via
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                                              Hi,
                                              
                                              
                                              
                                              I'm
                                                interested in using the
                                                new Audio Pro Soundcard
                                                for streaming Tidal 
                                              
                                              with a high
                                                resolution account
                                                (audio of up to 192kHz,
                                                24bit). For this 
                                              
                                              I'll be
                                                needing only unbalanced
                                                audio output from the
                                                card to connect to 
                                              
                                              a stereo
                                                pre-amp and power amp.
                                              
                                              
                                              
                                              How should
                                                I go about making the
                                                audio connections for
                                                this, please? Is 
                                              
                                              it just a
                                                matter of connecting a
                                                pair of RCA sockets to
                                                certain pins on 
                                              
                                              the "OUT"
                                                section of the board?
                                              
                                              
                                              
                                              For my
                                                system, the Raspberry
                                                with the Pro Soundcard
                                                will be running a 
                                              
                                              Logitech
                                                Media Server with a
                                                Squeezelite audio
                                                player.
                                              
                                              
                                              
                                              Thanks a
                                                lot,
                                              
                                              
                                              
                                              Iain
                                              
                                              
                                              
                                              
                                              
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