[AudioI] FW: Re: Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal streaming

Iain Mott mott at escuta.org
Wed Jan 17 14:39:28 UTC 2024


Jonathan,

I bought the XLR Pro board (i had already purchased the base Pro board). 
I noticed something I hadn't before, that is that the analogue 
"bandwidth" is rated at 96kHz - as is the bandwidth on the RCA Pro 
board. The Pro Board is 192kHz/24bit. Does that mean a 192kHz/24bit FLAC 
stream is first down-sampled to 96kHz in the process of converting the 
signal to audio?

My other related question is: What is the advantage of using the Pro 
RCA/Pro Injector cards over the old Audio Injector Stereo card? - 
(ignoring the lack of volume controls and headphone jack)

Thanks,

Iain

Em 16/01/2024 19:45, jr52884 escreveu:
> Iain,
>
> I don’t know if it sends recompressed audio over the network, but if I 
> was going to play audio, I would have the player running on the device 
> that the soundcard is connected to.
>
> Only you can make the determination whether a 192 kHz soundcard is 
> best for your application. In my application, I record radio signals 
> up to 96 kHz and use single ended audio for a 60 kHz radio signal. 
> What is important is reducing the noise in your system.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
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>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024, 3:36 PM, mott via People 
> <people at lists.audioinjector.net> wrote:
>
>     That's interesting, I hadn't realised that other players on the
>     same local network would receive a recompressed signal. I may
>     check this on the logitech forum. But no, both server and the
>     player for my main stereo are on the same Pi and the sound will go
>     direct to the card, not the network.
>
>     Is there no advantage in using the card that handles 192kHz, even
>     though it's connect to unbalanced inputs?
>
>     Iain
>
>
>     Enviado do meu Galaxy
>
>
>     -------- Mensagem original --------
>     De : jr52884 <jr52884 at aim.com>
>     Data: 16/01/2024 17:16 (GMT-03:00)
>     Para: mott <mott at escuta.org>, people at lists.audioinjector.net
>     Assunto: Re: [AudioI] FW: Re: Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal streaming
>
>     Hi Iain,
>
>     I thought you wanted differential audio output from the Pro. Do
>     you just want single-ended (unbalanced) then? If so, you would buy
>     the RCA preamp board for the Pro instead.
>
>     You mentioned you are using a high fidelity streaming service.
>     Will you be running it on the Pi itself or streaming the audio
>     output of what you are running it on over the network to the Pi?
>     If the latter is the case, you’ll be recompressing the streaming
>     service’s audio to deliver it to the Pi over the network and
>     losing quality. I don’t know if it will resample it, but if it
>     does, you would be defeating your initial goal.
>
>     Jonathan
>
>
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>     On Tuesday, January 16, 2024, 1:27 PM, mott <mott at escuta.org> wrote:
>
>         That's great Jonathan. The preamp is a Quad 34 with unbalanced
>         inputs (rca). I'm guessing the output of XLR board will be
>         better than the earlier Audio Injector Stereo (at least when
>         playing 192kHz 24bit audio), but in any case, I need an
>         additional quality output board for the Pi, and it'll be handy
>         have a balanced interface for other things. I'll wire up or
>         purchase a short XLR to RCA lead to connect to the Quad.
>
>         Logitech Media Server is an excellent streaming audio server
>         for Spotify, Tidal, web radio, etc. It can stream to any
>         number of players (including squeezelite) on a network and
>         these players can be controlled from mobile phone apps or a
>         browser interface.
>
>         All the best,
>
>         Iain
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         Enviado do meu Galaxy
>
>
>         -------- Mensagem original --------
>         De : jr52884 <jr52884 at aim.com>
>         Data: 16/01/2024 13:58 (GMT-03:00)
>         Para: mott at escuta.org, people at lists.audioinjector.net
>         Assunto: Re: [AudioI] FW: Re: Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal
>         streaming
>
>         Hi Iain,
>
>         I don’t know what sort of input connections your preamp has (I
>         don’t believe you mentioned it) and I’m not familiar with any
>         of that software.
>
>         The Pro simply presents itself as an ALSA device, like any
>         other ALSA soundcard. If you require differential audio output
>         for your preamp, you’ll get it with the XLR preamp board via
>         the XLR connectors.
>
>         Jonathan
>
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>
>         On Tuesday, January 16, 2024, 5:25 AM, Iain Mott
>         <mott at escuta.org> wrote:
>
>             Thanks Jonathan,
>
>             I think the description "Audio Injector XLR Preamp -
>             Professional-Grade Audio Interface for Microphones and
>             XLR-Based Audio Sources", confused me a little. I didn't
>             initially assume that it had outputs.
>
>             My Pi with have the Logitech Media Server running and
>             additionally, squeezelite, to play from the server and
>             send audio to the outputs of the "Audio Injector XLR Preamp".
>
>             If that sounds correct I'll place my order for the Pre-amp.
>
>             All the best,
>
>             Iain
>
>             Em 15/01/2024 17:13, jr52884 at aim.com
>             <mailto:jr52884 at aim.com> escreveu:
>             Iain,
>
>             The XLR preamp board provides both stereo input and output
>             and is how you interface the Pro with whatever you connect
>             it to. If you want differential audio output, that's the
>             preamp board you buy. If you want single-ended audio like
>             the Stereo provides, you buy the RCA preamp board.
>
>             The XLR/RCA preamp board provides the analog preamp stage
>             that interfaces with the CODEC's inputs/outputs used on
>             the Pro.
>
>             Jonathan
>
>
>             On Monday, January 15, 2024, 11:45:29 AM EST, mott via
>             People <people at lists.audioinjector.net>
>             <mailto:people at lists.audioinjector.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             Enviado do meu Galaxy
>
>
>             -------- Mensagem original --------
>             De : mott <mott at escuta.org> <mailto:mott at escuta.org>
>             Data: 15/01/2024 12:25 (GMT-03:00)
>             Para: jr52884 <jr52884 at aim.com> <mailto:jr52884 at aim.com>
>             Assunto: Re: [AudioI] Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal streaming
>
>             Hi Jonathan,
>
>             So the XLR preamp acts as a complete stereo interface,
>             with stereo output independent of any input?
>
>             Iain
>
>
>
>             Enviado do meu Galaxy
>
>
>             -------- Mensagem original --------
>             De : jr52884 <jr52884 at aim.com> <mailto:jr52884 at aim.com>
>             Data: 15/01/2024 11:47 (GMT-03:00)
>             Para: mott <mott at escuta.org> <mailto:mott at escuta.org>,
>             people at lists.audioinjector.net
>             <mailto:people at lists.audioinjector.net>
>             Assunto: Re: [AudioI] Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal streaming
>
>             Hi Iain,
>
>             You simply buy the Audio Injector Pro and the XLR preamp
>             board and use XLR to connect unbalanced audio to your
>             preamp like you would anything else.
>
>             The preamp board is needed unless you want to roll your
>             own high quality op amp line drivers. The CODEC requires
>             them.
>
>             Jonathan
>
>
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>             On Sunday, January 14, 2024, 12:20 PM, mott via People
>             <people at lists.audioinjector.net>
>             <mailto:people at lists.audioinjector.net> wrote:
>
>                 Thanks Jonathan. No, sorry, I should have explained
>                 better. I currently have a raspberry pi with a stereo
>                 audio injector card. It's connected to a Quad 43
>                 preamplifier and I use it for streaming Tidal. My
>                 turntable is also connected to the Quad and I want
>                 keep using the preamp. I'm interested in using the Pro
>                 audioinjector to make use of its processing of higher
>                 sampling rates, specifically, for Tidal's high
>                 resolution content, some of which streams at 192kHz.
>                 So I need to know how to wire its output to connect
>                 with the unbalanced inputs of the Quad 43.
>
>                 Iain
>
>
>
>                 Enviado do meu Galaxy
>
>
>                 -------- Mensagem original --------
>                 De : jr52884 at aim.com <mailto:jr52884 at aim.com>
>                 Data: 14/01/2024 13:27 (GMT-03:00)
>                 Para: mott <mott at escuta.org> <mailto:mott at escuta.org>
>                 Assunto: Re: [AudioI] Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal
>                 streaming
>
>                 Ian,
>
>                 There are output boards available, both single-ended
>                 (rca preamp) and differential (XLR preamp) boards. It
>                 sounds like you have the RCA preamp board. You would
>                 simply buy the differential preamp board. Here
>                 <https://www.audioinjector.net/xlr-preamp> is the
>                 product page and it looks like you can purchase it
>                 here
>                 <https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806074336637.html>.
>
>                 Jonathan
>
>                 On Saturday, January 13, 2024, 11:24:28 AM EST, mott
>                 via People <people at lists.audioinjector.net>
>                 <mailto:people at lists.audioinjector.net> wrote:
>
>
>                 Actually, what I wrote is probably wrong, at least, if
>                 the diagram really does apply to the Pro.
>
>
>                 Output 4 is Left out +ve and Output 3 is Right +ve,
>                 for balanced, I assume.
>
>
>
>
>
>                 Enviado do meu Galaxy
>
>
>                 -------- Mensagem original --------
>                 De : Iain Mott via People
>                 <people at lists.audioinjector.net>
>                 <mailto:people at lists.audioinjector.net>
>                 Data: 13/01/2024 11:38 (GMT-03:00)
>                 Para: Holguin Daniel <cicloide at yahoo.com>
>                 <mailto:cicloide at yahoo.com>,
>                 people at lists.audioinjector.net
>                 <mailto:people at lists.audioinjector.net>
>                 Assunto: Re: [AudioI] Audio Pro Soundcard for Tidal
>                 streaming
>
>                 Thanks Fausto!
>
>                 I saw this diagram on github:
>
>                 So I'd wire the left channel RCA "tip" to Output 1 and
>                 the right channel tip to Output 2. Correct? Do the
>                 Output pins have a ground or should I wire the RCA
>                 sleeves to the GND on the Power pins?
>
>                 Iain
>
>
>                 Em 13/01/2024 09:21, Holguin Daniel escreveu:
>>                 Hi Iain.
>>
>>                 Yes. The first two channels are at the left. The left
>>                 channel on top. Usually.
>>
>>                 The card can output stereo.
>>
>>                 Fausto
>>
>>                 sent from a📱
>>
>>                     On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 5:01, Iain Mott via People
>>                     <people at lists.audioinjector.net>
>>                     <mailto:people at lists.audioinjector.net> wrote:
>>                     Hi,
>>
>>                     I'm interested in using the new Audio Pro
>>                     Soundcard for streaming Tidal
>>                     with a high resolution account (audio of up to
>>                     192kHz, 24bit). For this
>>                     I'll be needing only unbalanced audio output from
>>                     the card to connect to
>>                     a stereo pre-amp and power amp.
>>
>>                     How should I go about making the audio
>>                     connections for this, please? Is
>>                     it just a matter of connecting a pair of RCA
>>                     sockets to certain pins on
>>                     the "OUT" section of the board?
>>
>>                     For my system, the Raspberry with the Pro
>>                     Soundcard will be running a
>>                     Logitech Media Server with a Squeezelite audio
>>                     player.
>>
>>                     Thanks a lot,
>>
>>                     Iain
>>
>>
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